Articles | Volume 24, issue 8
https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-24-2875-2024
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Exploring the sensitivity of extreme event attribution of two recent extreme weather events in Sweden using long-running meteorological observations
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Exploring extreme event attribution by using long-running meteorological observations
This paper assesses two methods of event attribution for two events in Sweden – a hot summer and an intense rainfall event. It is shown that the two different methods agree reasonably for the temperature event, but show more disagreement for rainfall.
I found the introduction and methods clearly written and enjoyable to read, with good background literature (although some perhaps less relevant to this particular study). The methods are clearly explained and the results from the second method well presented– but I struggled to identify the results from the first method, or a clear comparison between methods.
General comments:
Clearly labelling the two methods from the outset would be useful – the header of 2.2 is misleading, as observations are also used in the first method. Something like ‘GMST adjusted method’ and ‘using pre-industrial observations’ would be more accurate.
In order to provide a comparison of the two methods a more thorough presentation of the results of the GMST adjusted method is needed. The GMST adjusted method could be applied to the same datasets as used in the pre-industrial observations data – I am not clear if it is.
The study presents the use of pre-industrial data for attribution as a good alternative to the GMST adjusted method, without full discussion of possible problems with the method. Greater emphasis on possible downfall of the pre-industrial observational data would be useful. One major advantage of using a shorter observational record with GMST is that the data needed is available for more locations and variable globally. Although long observational records are available in Sweden, there are many parts of the world where this is not the case – this should be better highlighted.
Specific comments:
Title – doesn't capture the content, too vague
Abstract - ‘analogue approach’ this term is widely used for a different method using dynamical analogues (e.g. Climameter). Perhaps adding ‘statistical’ would make it more clear what you are doing (see also comment above about labelling the two methods).
Paragraph at line 40 could come sooner in the introduction (around line 23) as the two paragraphs either side flow better together (and have some repetition in the local-global responses).
Lines 25-30 perhaps irrelevant to this study as physical processes are not covered in this statistical assessment.
Line 18 – what types of events?
Fig1 – I find this a little unclear, is p0 more likely hot than p1?
To include or not the event in question?
Why days greater than 25, not just Tmax?
Fig.3 caption typo in dates (1882-1992) - and fig 6
Fig.6 - no stations have at least one year missing 15% of days (none have the cross)? Is that correct?
e.g. line 160, figA3, Interchanging use of historical and pre-industrial for the 1882-1911 period – I think it would be clearer to use pre-industrial throughout as historical could mean any past period (I think sometimes you use it to refer to the full historical/observational record).
Paragraph at line 88 could be shortened, as the methods described are not those used in this study – perhaps it would be better to start with paragraph at line 97 stating what is done in this study, then mention that there are other methods used elsewhere.
Line 112 – data for this study / event definition, a subheader would be useful here.
Header 2.2 - observations are used in the first method too
Section 2.3 - the climatic indicators have already been mentioned in the section above, maybe this should go into an event definition section – which perhaps could be section 2.1, before the two methods.