Articles | Volume 23, issue 7
https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-23-2569-2023
© Author(s) 2023. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Review article: Snow and ice avalanches in high mountain Asia – scientific, local and indigenous knowledge
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- Final revised paper (published on 20 Jul 2023)
- Preprint (discussion started on 12 Jan 2023)
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RC1: 'Comment on nhess-2022-287', Markus Eckerstorfer, 22 Feb 2023
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Anushilan Acharya, 23 Apr 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on nhess-2022-287', Yves Bühler, 09 Mar 2023
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Anushilan Acharya, 23 Apr 2023
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (28 Apr 2023) by Wolfgang Schwanghart
AR by Anushilan Acharya on behalf of the Authors (06 May 2023)
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ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (09 Jun 2023) by Wolfgang Schwanghart
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (09 Jun 2023) by Sven Fuchs (Executive editor)
AR by Anushilan Acharya on behalf of the Authors (17 Jun 2023)
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Dear Authors!
I am very impressed by the amount of data you have gathered on avalanche events in HMA. Your GIS based database is great and a good starting point for further studies and initiatives as you write in your manuscript. This work is of high value and very timely for the people living in these areas and their livelihood being threatened by snow and ice avalanches (and other slope and glacier hazards).
I suggest minor revision that mostly concerns some clarifications, writing (I am not an English native speaker myself) and the use of technical terms.
Doesn’t – “does not” in several places
40: consider splitting up this very long sentence
43: since you mention avalanches for the first time here, maybe write “snow avalanches (hereafter also called avalanches)”
46: I would delete Eckerstorfer and Malnes, 2015 here, since it is not the correct paper to cite on how avalanches affect socio-economic activities. McClung’s Handbook is fine here.
55: not sure how important these past death tolls are here. Consider looking up major avalanche accidents in Asia, for example in Panjshir, Afghanistan in 2015.
78: I do not think that avalanche related climate change studies are that limited anymore. There are numerous studies from Switzerland and France that should certainly be mentioned here.
108: until here I thought your review would only concern ice avalanches. I believe you should consider giving an overview over ice avalanches in the introduction, similar to the comprehensive introduction to snow avalanches.
147: depth-hoar avalanches is not a commonly used term. Could you write “avalanches that release on the ground” or “full depth avalanches”.
Section 3.1 you are switching a bit between past and present tense. Consider writing it all in past tense.
151: it is not correct that a deep snowpack favors depth hoar growth. In fact, it is the opposite. A thin snowpack allows for a large temperature gradient between ground and atmosphere and thus kinetic growth of snow crystals into depth hoar.
156: it does not make sense that SDAs (surface layer dry slabs) occurred with a persistent weak layer. However, it makes sense that they were triggered by heavy snowfall and wind. Consider deleting the information on persistent weak layers. These would be present with FDA for example.
159: if a storm triggered 37 avalanches, it does not make sense that half of them were triggered by precipitation. What about the other half?
162: sentence is not understandable. Please rewrite.
167: please check again if these avalanches predominantly released between 25 and 35 degrees. Where these wet snow avalanches or slush flows?
172: consider splitting up this very long sentence
176: not really sure what a moist slab avalanche is. In my opinion the classification is either wet or dry.
178: we usually talk about wind-loaded slopes. Thaw avalanches is not a term commonly used. I guess you mean wet snow avalanches?
189: what do you mean by weakened layers?
195: consider splitting up this very long sentence
200: contradicting who? Your opinion?
Figure 1a: this seems to be a glide crack that precauses a glide avalanche.
Figure 1d: I wonder if the avalanche eroded the gully. Would you rather not think the gully was already there, caused by some other process?
Figure 3a: the color indicating glaciated areas is not the same as in the legend.
Figure 3b: how do I interpret the map? If a circle over an area shows 30-40 fatalities, are all of these fatalities from a single event, or the sum of fatalities from multiple events over multiple years?
Figures 3 and 4: what do you mean by “some recorded impact”?
Figure 4b: what are impacts by month?
Figure 4a: the figure is not easy to read and interpret. I am not sure there is much information to be gained from Figure 4b. maybe consider showing the stacked fatalities per year in Figure 4b instead.
Table 2: if you do not know the type of slope hazard (NA), why are these events included then in the table? Does it make sense to mention “slab avalanche” in the table? I guess its falls into the snow avalanche category anyway.
330: you initially stated that you are not considering high altitude mountaineering avalanche fatalities. However, here you have a whole section on it. I find it interesting and I think you should slightly rewrite your scope of the study in the introduction.
Section 6: interesting topic, however, very thinly described. Could you add some references here for further reading?
453: love the story about people basically growing rock glaciers. Have heard that in some lectures before!