Articles | Volume 25, issue 11
https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-25-4331-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Indonesia tornado database: tornado climatology of Indonesia
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- Final revised paper (published on 04 Nov 2025)
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- Preprint (discussion started on 14 May 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-1857', Anonymous Referee #1, 09 Jul 2025
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (further review by editor and referees) (26 Aug 2025) by Piero Lionello
AR by Irfans Firdaus on behalf of the Authors (26 Aug 2025)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (08 Sep 2025) by Piero Lionello
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ED: Publish as is (05 Oct 2025) by Piero Lionello
AR by Irfans Firdaus on behalf of the Authors (06 Oct 2025)
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The manuscript presents the first comprehensive tornado climatology for Indonesia, compiling 436 events from 1834–2024 using multiple data sources. The work fills an important gap in our current knowledge, because unlike the US or Europe, Indonesia had no tornado database, so publishing an analysis of confirmed and probable cases is a valuable contribution. The manuscript is in general well-structured and mostly clear in writing. The inclusion of historical archives, Indonesian Met Service records, and social-media/news reports demonstrates effort and to some extent novelty. The climatological findings are potentially of interest for regional hazard assessment. At the same time, the authors should be very cautious in interpreting the rising trend historical vs. recent period as anything other than improved reporting. Overall, the manuscript is a good contribution to tornado climatology in Southeast Asia, but some contextual analysis is lacking (see below)
Specific Comments
1. The authors note that modern reports (2010–2024) dominate the database due to Internet/social-media proliferation. This implies strong observational bias (i.e., underreporting before the digital era). The spatial climatology likely reflects population density and media coverage rather than the true distribution of tornadoes. It might help to explicitly state how duplicate reports were merged (e.g., when one tornado generated multiple news reports). The use of “generative AI” (Gemini) to filter social media reports is useful, but a brief note on validation or potential biases of this method would strengthen confidence in the results. Lastly, ensure all non-English terms are clearly translated when first used.
2. The classification scheme (Table 1) follows Rauhala et al. (2012) and similar studies. One suggestion is to ensure the terms like “credible eyewitness” are well-defined. The wording in Table 1 could be tightened (e.g., “credible eyewitness who reported hearing a thunderous sound” should be “reported hearing thunder”). It might be worthwhile to note explicitly that without damage surveys, classification from media accounts is inherently uncertain, for example, some “probable” tornadoes may have been straight-line wind events. The authors should could consider cross-referencing the cases with meteorological data (e.g., radar, reanalysis).
3. Caution when interpreting a climate change signal in the occurrence of tornadoes. The spatial distribution shows a strong bias towards Java and very few reports from Maluku–Papua, which reflects both population and possibly data availability. This should be emphasised as a limitations. For example, in the Discussion section the authors could add that provinces with few reports may simply lack observers or press coverage. One further suggestions is to have a separate Discussion section.
4. The manuscript analyses two recent tornadoes (Rancaekek 2024 and Bogor 2018) using the EF-Scale and JEF-Scale. This shows that the same damage translates to a higher rating on the JEF-Scale (EF2 vs JEF3 for Rancaekek). The authors argue that differences in building practices cause this discrepancy, and suggest developing an Indonesian scale. However, two case studies are not enough to fully justify a new scale and the general conclusion.
5. The Discussion mentions that most tornadoes occurred in the Nov–Mar season, aligning with the Austral summer monsoon. It also notes that effects of the MJO and ENSO are worth investigating. This is an important point as large-scale atmospheric modes strongly modulate convection over Indonesia. However, the manuscript does not analyse any of these factors quantitatively. A minimum improvement would be to cite previous studies that link convection in Indonesian to ENSO/MJO.
Technical Corrections
- line 26: the phrase “a tornado events” should be “tornado events.”
- lines 35-36: the term “basic climatology characteristics” should be “basic climatological characteristics.”
- line 37: replace “catalyst future tornado studies” with “catalyze future tornado studies.”
- line 47: “occuring” should be “occurring.”