Articles | Volume 24, issue 10
https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-24-3357-2024
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A coupled hydrological and hydrodynamic modeling approach for estimating rainfall thresholds of debris-flow occurrence
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (further review by editor and referees) (09 Feb 2024) by David J. Peres
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ED: Publish as is (07 Aug 2024) by David J. Peres
AR by Qiuhua Liang on behalf of the Authors (12 Aug 2024)
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The authors present a method to obtain rainfall intensity-duration thresholds for runoff-generated debris flows. To obtain these thresholds the authors have used existing equations in the literature to compute the critical discharge that could lead to the destabilization of catchment slopes that have a fine granulometry, and slopes that have large boulders. The presented rainfall intensity-duration thresholds have been established using the rainfall events that reach the critical discharge value over different percentages of pixels in the catchment. However, no recommendation on the critical area required for debris flow initiation is given.
My main concern is the novelty of the presented work. The hydrological simulations were conducted by Wei et al., (2018). The relationship between the intensity-duration of the rainfall event that triggered the 2013 debris flow and the discharge is also studied in Wei et al., (2018). Moreover, as the authors point out in line 630, Wei et al., (2017) already used the same method to establish an intensity-duration threshold for the studied catchment.
An additional major concern is that the thresholds presented in this manuscript have only been tested using one debris flow event. However, the authors employ rather strong language throughout the manuscript and claim that the proposed thresholds can effectively identify the triggering and non-triggering rainfall events. In my opinion, a larger inventory with more debris flow events and spanning a longer period is needed to provide a reliable calibration and verification of the proposed thresholds.
Finally, the structure of the paper needs to be improved. The manuscript lacks clear objectives. The results, methods and discussion are mixed through section 4 and in the discussion (section 5). Some information appears repeated, and some relevant information to understand parts of the paper comes late. This makes it difficult for the reader.
For the above-stated reasons, I do not recommend this manuscript for publication in NHESS.
Additional comments:
-Line 691: I do not agree. In my opinion, statistical methods used to obtain empirical rainfall intensity-duration thresholds are objective. In fact, such thresholds are calibrated and validated using large datasets containing multiple landslide events and no-events and, in some cases, even monitoring data. The thresholds you proposed have not been properly validated using debris flow data.
- Line 707: The approach was already presented in Wei et al., (2017).
References:
Wei, Z.L., Shang, Y.Q., Zhao, Y., Pan, P. and Jiang, Y.J., 2017. Rainfall threshold for initiation of channelized debris flows in a small catchment based on in-site measurement. Engineering Geology, 217:23-34
Wei, Z.L., Xu, Y.P., Sun, H.Y., Xie, W., Wu, G., 2018. Predicting the occurrence of channelized debris flow by a cascading flood debris-flow model in a small debris flow-prone catchment. Geomorphology, 308 :78-90