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https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-26-2785-2026
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Hybrid forest disturbance classification using Sentinel-1 and inventory data: a case-study for Southeastern USA
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The paper combines three different datasets on forest disturbances for a large region in the Southern and Eastern US: IDS, S1DM, and Planetscope. The first one is a routine product freely accessible with yearly updates, the second one is generated by the authors based on Sentinel-1 time series, and the third one is merely a case-based evaluation tool including manual delineation of polygons with damaged forest.
Out of the many disturbances, the authors select windthrow, bark beetle attacks, and defoliators, representing important categories, but leaving out fire. Which areas are considered and which are excluded is largely determined by the flight trajectories leading to the IDS dataset - this is a bit disappointing since S1 tiles have global coverage, and the advantage of satellite remote sensing is the ability to conclude on patterns outside ground-based (or aerial for that matter) observations, provided sufficient training data. It would be interesting to see an area with a damage according to the Planetscope manual delineation and the S1 trend detection there, but not covered by the IDS. Of course, the TCC might still be used to exclude non-forested areas. The exercise would demonstrate the power of the S1 disturbance detection completely independent from the IDS data; in general, the two approaches are just compared, they do not depend on each other.
Concerning the exclusion of non-forest areas, the authors set an unnecessary strict threshold for the presence of a forest, i.e. 30% canopy cover. This is not aligned with the FAO definition of a forest as any are of minimum size 0.5 ha with a canopy cover (for trees which can grow to more than 5 meters) of only 10% (https://fra-data.fao.org/definitions/fra/2020/en/tad). As the minimum area required according to FAO is only 12.5 pixels for S-1, the 30% seems to be overly restrictive.
On page 3, l. 84-92, ML and DL are mentioned. While it is largely correct what is written here, it seems that not a single ML or DL method is applied in the rest of the paper. What is the purpose of that paragraph? Is it a leftover from earlier versions of the manuscript? It might as well be deleted.
Regarding the size of disturbed areas, a maximum size of 15 km2 is used. This seems to be an arbitrary threshold and a huge difference to the maximum size of 2000 km2 used by Eifler et al. (2024). The only justification is (l. 278) “we applied a stricter filter”. Certainly you did, but why? Many beetle attacks happen on or spread to larger areas, similar with defoliators.
The polygon sizes mentioned in Table 1 are hard to believe. The smallest one (0.5 m2) would cover a single tree at most, and would be undetectable in aerial imagery. The largest one would be a significant fraction of all forest in region 8. Double-check these numbers.
The RQA TREND method for change detection is perfectly valid; however, the method has three parameters: the embedding dimension m, the recurrence threshold ε, and the delay τ. The results for the slope away from the main diagonal depends on them. None of the parameters is provided in the text; unfortunately, Cremer et al. (2020) does not mention them either; you also refer to the “European Commission…(2023)” proceedings, what you really mean is the Cremer et al. article on pp. 361-364 in that book (please be more precise in your referencing), but that article does not contain the values for the parameters either. Thus, the threshold for the trend -1.28 (l. 316 – what you probably mean is -1.28 yr-1) appears completely arbitrary (again, also this threshold is not mentioned in the Cremer et al. articles), what is its justification? It seems to be THE crucial parameter to distinguish non-disturbance to disturbance – how robust are your results against changing it? The extreme patchiness of the disturbance areas (e.g. as seen in Figure 7) could be a result of that choice. – You are also stating the opposite of what you intend to say in l. 316f, the correct version would be “Pixels with a RQA-Trend value ABOVE the threshold of -1.28 were considered to show no significant change.” Please be more explicit here, and check the consequences of changing the trend threshold. Did you calculate one RP per time series, or did you move a window (e.g. of one year length) across the time series and calculated a separate RP and thus a TREND each time? If a disturbance sets in, it is to be expected that some of the RQA variables (TREND, but possibly also DET) “react” more or less suddenly (e.g. for wind). That would provide an opportunity to put a more precise date for the onset of the disturbance.
Concerning the IDS dataset, you mention “over 1000 selectable agents” (l. 162). This is surely a source of uncertainty; how can any image interpreter ever pick the right one out of so many choices under time pressure etc.? How many of these 1000 did you have to aggregate to get to the broad categories “wind”, “bark beetle”, “defoliator”? Please discuss. What is the connection between the > 1000 choices and Table A.3 (the transformation of the choices into DCA_ID)?
The annotated pdf attached to this review contains a further 31 comments, mostly rather specific ones. Please consider them as well.
The paper has some strong points on being self-critical, indicating the limitations of the study, the problems with spatial inaccuracy and thus the necessity to introduce a buffer zone around the polygons, etc. It becomes obvious that the three disturbance categories are very different in their spatial structure. Rendering IDS and S1DM truly comparable for bark beetle and defoliator attacks is a long way to go, as Figure 4 demonstrates.
A rather tricky issue is the timing of the onset of a disturbance; here, the authors go to a very coarse resolution of even more than one year, indicating that “online detection” of new damages is impossible. This is really a pity, since the strength of S-1 (and also S-2 for that matter) is short revisit cycles, with the potential to detect emerging attacks early and potentially act accordingly, very relevant for ecosystem managers! (See Jamali et al. 2023 for an approach using S-2). As the setup is now, the S1DM is for documentation of past events only.
The last sentence (l. 649f.) is talking about an “alternative to manual labeling”; ironically, you are judging the quality of the S1DM as compared to IDS based on a third dataset which was obtained by manual labeling. The “fully automatic forest disturbance classification methods” (l. 645) are still to be developed.
The changes suggested still add up to “minor revisions” only, this is regarding the text. The sensitivity analysis for the TREND threshold and the selection of PlanetScope/S1DM but NOT IDS damaged areas require additional work however.
Reference
Jamali, S., P.-O. Olsson, A. Ghorbanian and M. Müller (2023). "Examining the potential for early detection of spruce bark beetle attacks using multi-temporal Sentinel-2 and harvester data." ISPRS Journal of Photogrammetry and Remote Sensing 205: 352-366. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.isprsjprs.2023.10.013