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Review article: A European perspective on wind and storm damage – from the meteorological background to index-based approaches to assess impacts
Daniel Gliksman
Paul Averbeck
Nico Becker
Barry Gardiner
Valeri Goldberg
Jens Grieger
Dörthe Handorf
Karsten Haustein
Alexia Karwat
Florian Knutzen
Hilke S. Lentink
Rike Lorenz
Deborah Niermann
Joaquim G. Pinto
Ronald Queck
Astrid Ziemann
Christian L. E. Franzke
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RC1: 'Comment on nhess-2022-159', Anonymous Referee #1, 11 Jul 2022
Summary
According to the title, this manuscript addresses the topic of wind and storm damage from the genesis of meteorological conditions that lead to storms to the damage that storms can cause. In my view, the title of the manuscript is too general, as the authors focus on extra-tropical storms and their impacts over the North Atlantic-European region. One can clearly see that the review was written from a European perspective. Therefore, I suggest a title change that more closely reflects the focus of the manuscript and the spatial relevance of the summarized studies. An imbalance can also be observed concerning the five sectors studied. The text portions in which wind effects on forests and trees are described predominate. This is not unfavorable in principle but should be clarified in the introduction.
In the following, I list comments on peculiarities of the manuscript that I noticed during reading:
General comments
- I suggest providing definitions (e.g., based on numerical values, duration, …) of “wind”, “windstorm”, “storm”, “wind-related risk”, “gust”, “mean wind speed”, … early in the Introduction. In the context of “wind-related risk assessment” this is important. What is “wind-related risk”? Is this wind and storm damage risk? Not all wind speed values pose a risk and cause calamities.
- I suggest deleting “e.g.” when citing other studies (e.g. P2L57 “e.g. Bittelli et al., 2008) throughout the text.
- I suggest homogenizing the citations style in the text. Please pay attention to the use of the comma and semicolon.
- Please homogenize and correct the order and formatting of all citations in the text. I found different formats and orders (by authors vs by year).
- Please check the formatting and grammar of all headings.
- Please insert a blank character between numbers and units wherever it is missing.
- Please add more line breaks where new trains of thought begin.
- I suggest a complete review of the formatting of abbreviations and symbols. Particular attention should be paid to the subscript of letters.
- It seems as if sections were written by different authors. There are discernable differences in the diction, and other inconsistencies:
- Please make sure that there are no repetitions of definitions or basic facts in different sections. For example, “wind load” sure be defined once at the very beginning, not in sections 4.3.
- The sections have a differing structure of subsections. I suggest using the same or a similar structure and contents in the sections. This considerably increases the readability of the long manuscript.
- I suggest moving all knowledge, facts, concepts, and descriptions (e.g., structure of the lower parts of the boundary layer, wind pressure, vertical wind profile, coherent structures, roughness, porosity, channeling, codes, terrain roughness, orography index vs topography index, …) that are portable to all “environments” are provided in separate sections before presenting the specifics of the environments.
- Please check the entire text for the incorrect use of uncountable nouns such as damage and wind speed.
Specific comments
L43: What is the difference between wind damage and storm damage? What is the metric that is used to distinguish the two kinds of damage?
L50: I suggest using the correct technical term “air temperature” instead of “temperature”.
L66: What is the difference between “strong winds” and “strong wind gusts”? I suggest providing clear definitions of both quantities.
L67-L75: At this point it would make sense to introduce the definition of risk. The storm damage risk is the product of hazard, exposition, and vulnerability.
L75: I suggest better structuring and formulating the list “wind, storm dynamics, and the ability …” What is the meaning of “understanding wind”?
L81: Do you solely mean “wind damage”? Or also storm damage? I suggest replacing “wind-damage” with “wind damage”.
L82-L86: I suggest deleting all repeated information that has already been provided in previous lines.
L92: Please replace “in the Earths’” with “of the Earth’s”.
L103: Please delete the superfluous “below”.
L110: I suggest lower casing “Northern”, “Southern” and “Hemisphere”.
L117-L123: These lines are located between explanations about the jet stream. Therefore, I suggest moving these lines further down and to merge the information about the jet stream. It would also make sense with respect to the space and time scales that boundary layer processes dominate to move the lines downward.
L136-L144: It is not clear why these explanations are provided. I doubt that the entire readership knows how “vorticity” is defined. Where is the connection to air motion in the context of this paper?
L147: I suggest replacing “its” with “their”.
L195: Please adjust the formatting of the heading to the formatting of the other headings.
L200-L201: I suggest deleting the lumped references. They are repeated in the following lines.
L206: “CMIP5” is undefined. I suggest providing a definition.
L211: Please correct the heading’s formatting. Why are “Circulation Characteristics” capitalized?
L222: Please provide a definition of abbreviation “ERA5”.
L223: Please homogenize the information on the geographical coordinates.
L230: I suggest lower casing “Sea Level Anomalies”.
L232: Please insert a blank character between “250” and “hPa”.
L234: Is it necessary to display the sequence of weather regimes (CL1-CL5)? I suggest deleting Fig. 1c. It does not provide information needed for this review.
L235: Is “red arrow” correct? I do not find a red arrow.
L235: What is “eXtreme WindStorms”? Is this an expression needed for this review?
L236: Please replace “storm track for storm” with “track for storm” or “storm track of Klaus”.
L235: Please add the missing dot after “al”.
L229-L256: Please homogenize the use of quotation marks when referring to winter storm Claus.
L244: Please replace “5” with “five”.
L252: The citations “Liberato et al., 2011” can be deleted. It is used again in L256.
L254, L262: Is “jet-stream pattern” the same as “jet regime”, as used on P6L232? If so, I suggest homogenizing the technical terms to minimize the load of specialized speech.
L258-L262: When looking at Fig. 1c, I find many CL4 regimes where no severe storm has occurred. In my opinion, this considerably relativizes the statements made here regarding specific weather regimes. I therefore suggest deleting or at least reformulating these lines.
L264: Please check the grammar. Is this the right case? Please lower case “Seasonal Variability”.
L270-L271: What is a “wind interval”? Do you mean “wind speed interval”? Please clarify.
L272-L273: The reference of the relative pronoun is ambiguous. Please considering rephrasing this sentence.
L274: There is no definition of “WL3” and “WL4”. Please provide more details.
L282-L283: Please provide correctly formatted tildes.
L286: Please homogenize the spelling of “intraseasonal”. What is your definition of “intraseasonal”? For me, this is the variation of wind speed within one season, e.g., winter. Is this the same definition for you? Or do you mean “intra-annual”, which is the variation of wind speed between seasons over the year. Please clarify.
L312: Why is “speeds” provided in km/h? Previous “speed” values were provided in m/s? Please homogenize. Which “speeds” do you mean? Wind speed or gust speed or anything else? Please clarify.
L314: Please check the double use of “from”.
L316: What do you mean by “commonly”. Can this be quantified?
L317: Which “type of convective activity” do you mean? And why is the reference Diffenbaugh et al. (2013) older than the references that refer to “more commonly reported”. This is not stringent.
L328: What are “wind field” characteristics that are relevant for this review besides “speed”. Please be more specific.
L329-L330: Please delete “caused by wind”. It is redundant.
L335. Please homogenize the spelling of “earth” throughout the text.
L351: Please homogenized the spelling of “wind speed” vs “wind-speed” in the text.
L367-L377: There are still no generalizable findings on whether the effect of individual tree stability or that of collective stand stability better protects forests from storm damage. Kamimura et al. (2022, listed in the References) provide important insights in this regard. They should be mentioned here.
L404-L405: The mention of the five environments is redundant. They have been mentioned before. I suggest deleting them.
L409: Please homogenize the spelling of “winter-storm” vs “winter storm” in the text.
L472: I suggest replacing “asl” with “above sea level” or defining “asl”.
L78: I suggest replacing “altitude” with “elevation”. While altitude is the height above ground, elevation is the height above sea level.
L491: I suggest replacing “damages” with “damage” because it is an uncountable noun in this context.
L497, Figure 2: Please replace “usefull” with “useful” in the figure legend.
L503: Please provide more information on the critical wind speed. Is this the instantaneous wind speed as sum of mean wind speed and gust speed or is this the mean wind speed alone? If so, what is the averaging interval for CWS?
L510: The maximum bending moment at the stem base is also strongly dependent on the crown architecture and dimensions. Trees with large crowns dissipate large amounts of energy in the crown space before any moment can be measured at the stem base.
L519: Please define the abbreviation “DBH”.
L525: Please define the abbreviation “NDVI”.
L529: Please replace “drag coefficient” with “mean drag coefficient”. The instantaneous drag coefficient of trees under wind loading is still largely unknown because it varies instantaneously.
L548: Here, you use “diameter of breast height” instead of “DBH”. It would better to consistently used either the long name or the abbreviation.
L551: Here, you use “Critical wind speed”. It would better to consistently used either the long name or the abbreviation.
L552-L553: Please correct the formatting of the citation.
L555-L564: How are these lines connected to wind-forest interactions? I suggest moving these lines into a more general statements section or deleting them.
L566: I suggest replacing “Urban” with “Urban areas”. “Urban” is unspecific.
P15, section 4.3.:
- Why are the subsections not numbered? In the previous sections, the subsections were numbered.
- There is an inconsistency in the headings of the subsections. The heading of the first subsection in 4.2. was “4.2.1 Topographic indices” (à 4.2.2 Topographic indices). In this section, it is “The urban boundary layer”. I suggest, adding a section something like “4.1.2. The forest boundary layer”. This would strengthen the structure of the manuscript. Topographic indices are of a totally different quality when it comes to the assessment of “The small-scale interactions …” (L568), in forest and urban areas.
L594-L598: Please replace “damages” with “damage”. This is an uncountable noun in this context.
L608: What is the difference between “topographic index” and “orography index”? I guess, there is none. I nonetheless suggest homogenizing these technical terms. More semasiologically correct would probably the use of “terrain index”.
L611: Does “critical wind speed thresholds” correspond to “CWS”? If not, this should be made clear.
L621-L622: Before, it was stated that gust speed is the most essential factor for storm damage. Here, it is stated that the “maximum daily wind speed” is most influential. Is gust speed equivalent to maximum daily wind speed? If not, what is the difference? What is the period of maximum daily wind speed? Please clarify.
L645: Please replace “;” with “:”.
L645-L652: Please match the variables and their definitions listed in Table 2 with variables mentioned elsewhere in the text. Otherwise, provide clearly distinctive definitions. For example: Does vcrit correspond to CWS? If so, does CWS have a daily resolution? In the text, you mentioned “maximum daily wind speed”. Does it correspond to vmax, being the abbreviation for maximum daily gust speed? What is the definition of gust in this context?
L734: The agricultural sector is a crucial sector worldwide, not only in Europe.
L769-L778: I suggest deleting all information on climate indices that is not relevant for this review.
L780: This section is also subdivided into subsection without numbering. Please homogenize the numbering throughout the entire text.
L792: What kind of wind speed is mentioned here? Are these mean or instantaneous wind speed values? Please clarify.
L793: Of what kind are the mentioned “critical threshold values”? Do they correspond to CWS or vcrit or are they something different? Please clarify.
L805: Please check the citation formatting.
P22L823: Is suggest deleting “extreme wind events”. Or do you mean something other than storms? If so, please elaborate.
L824: What do you mean by “stability”? Do you mean structural integrity? Please clarify.
L824-L826: What are “small-scale variations” in the wind field? Does this expression relate to the spatial wind speed pattern? Or does it also address the temporal wind field variability? Can “small-scale” be quantified? It does not sound to impact wind turbines a lot.
L828-L834: Please rephrase these lines completely. The sequence of the contents is not stringent.
L836: What is the meaning of “strong wind events” in this context? Does this refer to productive or destructive wind events? If it refers to productive wind events, then these events are an important part of the wind climate and should not be mentioned in this review.
L836-L843: How are these lines connected to the article’s title? This is a list of wind indices that are related to wind turbine site assessment.
L849: I suggest replacing “high-impact” in this context. High-impact or severe weather is normally weather that causes wide-spread damage. What could possibly be the “positive effect on wind energy production”? During high-impact weather wind turbines are shut down and the production rapidly decreases to zero.
L867-L873: The definition of “compound event” is unclear. Can a compound event be related to a single hazard? If so, this should be made clear.
L886: Please replace “Temperature” with the technically correct term “Air temperature”. You mention “freezing of soil” which is directly related to “soil temperature”.
L897-L904: Your argument in these lines is not stringent. The statement “The impact of wind on drought is relatively small.” cannot be backed by the statement “Wind is only included in some drought indices through evapotranspiration …” This is not logical. This is a methodical aspect of wind impact assessment.
L936-P26L968: Why is only DWD mentioned here given the large number of national meteorological services? Given the scope of this review, it would be good to have more information from other weather services in the text as well.
L938-L940: More information about “some cases” would be useful. For example, how many and which weather services warn?
L942-L943: Previously, it was mentioned that the review was carried out for “five environments”. Here, it is stated that threshold values were collected for “five sectors” and “five environments”. The two expressions have different quality and scope. Which expression is correct? The correct expression should consistently be used throughout the text.
L946: Here, the definitions for WL classes are provided. I suggest providing them at the beginning of the manuscript, in any case before L274.
L961: Please correct the formatting of “WL 1-4”. What kind of “speeds” do you mean? Mean or instantaneous wind speed values? Please clarify.
L962-L968:
- Is it correct that “wind speed” and “gust speed” values are compared in this figure? What is the importance of this comparison?
- Do the gust speed values correspond to 3 s values?
- What is the averaging interval of “mean wind”? Is the averaging interval for all displayed values the same?
- Is “mean wind” equivalent to “mean wind speed”?
- Is the y-axis label “Wind speed” representative for all variables displayed in the figure?
- In the figure the information “Wind in hub height” is provided. Does this correspond to “Wind speed in hub height”? In the figure caption “wind speed measured at the height of the wind turbines” is mentioned. Is this the same quantity? Please clarify.
- I suggest replacing “Critical thresholds” with “Critical threshold ranges”. This seems to be shown by this figure.
L972: Please uppercase “central Europe”.
L997-L1007: Please specify “indices” at every occurrence. Which indices do you mean? Wind indices? Storm indices? Storm damage indices?
L1004: Please define the abbreviations R² and AUC.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2022-159-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Christian Franzke, 17 Feb 2023
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://nhess.copernicus.org/preprints/nhess-2022-159/nhess-2022-159-AC1-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Christian Franzke, 17 Feb 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on nhess-2022-159', Anonymous Referee #2, 06 Jan 2023
Summary:
The authors provide an overview of (1) the meteorological phenomenon wind (2) its processes in interacting with the surface from a physical as well as an impact perspective and (3) a large collection of indices that are structured based on five environments: forests, urban, transport, agriculture, and wind-based energy production. These environments represent different communities in scientific literature as well as different sectors of socio-economic impacts. The authors provide a synthesis, an outlook and discuss open research questions.
General Comments:
- The manuscript would greatly benefit, if the different environments could be more synthesized in the outlook sections. Many open research questions seem similar in the different communities and could be tackled synergistically in the future. Additionally more explicitly spelling out some generalized conclusions about the different indices in the different environments before the outlook would increase the usefulness of this review.
- This manuscript features damage, impact and risk throughout the manuscript, but it mentions the socio-economic literature community (especially regarding exposure and vulnerability) mainly when such elements are used in indices in section 4. Maybe it would be beneficial to more often link to this body of research also in other sections:
- General introduction: How does this review position itself compared to reviews over different sectors in the impact modelling community (e.g. Merz et al. 2020 for windstorms and severe convective storms)?
- g. L867ff/L1009ff How do the non-climatic drivers related to vulnerability and exposure mentioned in Zscheischler et al. (2018) play into the development of compounded indices?
Specific comments:
L1: is the word “damage” broad enough? The manuscripts also mentions positive or indirect effects of wind. Why not mention the word “indices” in the title?
L39: “Fortunately, simple indices and thresholds are as effective as complex mechanistic models for many applications.” The “complex mechanistic models” are only mentioned in comparison with indexes but never fully defined, This term should be defined somewhere in the manuscript (e.g. in section 3).
L40: “Nonetheless, the multitude of indices and thresholds available requires a careful selection process according to the target environment”. This “careful selection process” could be taken up and expanded upon with useful suggestions at the end of the manuscript e.g. after L1001.
L78: It would be important if the manuscript would include information about the applied methodology that lead to this manuscript, here is just one possible location in the text: From the acknowledgement, I assume that a group of experts formed in the project ClimXtreme. The selection of the papers and their categorization in this review is an outcome of many discussions or workshops within this group and of individual expert knowledge. If this is not the case: how where the studied papers selected? Where there any relevant decisions what overlapping/neighboring fields of literature to include or exclude (e.g. other types of indices, other environments)?
L623: shouldn’t Koks and Haer (2020, already in References) also be mentioned here as an example of loss models
L940: National meteorological services do not only indicate the possible consequences, but take the consequences and the probabilities of these consequences as input into their warning decision (e.g. Neal et al. 2014) or they plan to do so in the future (Kaltenberger et al. 2020).
L942ff: This paragraph could be structured and phrased more clearly. It would also be helpful to include the references for the thresholds of the different environments in the main text and not only in the supplementary material.
L946: It is unclear how reaching a critical warning threshold in wind speed is related to the spatial extent. Mainly, it is unclear if the threshold is applied to each location (as it normally is for warnings) or once per weather phenomena (e.g. for the maximum wind speed over the whole affected area of an event similar to a storm severity index). If it is applied to each location, can’t a larger area (e.g. national area) have reached WL2? If it is about a localized damage having consequences for society on a larger spatial scale, then this needs to be said more clearly.
L961: The names of the different threshold ranges (e.g. local, regional, cut-in speed, cut-out speed) are only understandable using the supplementary material (S2). It would be better if these names would be explained in the caption or at least the previous paragraph of the main text.
L1001: “Such a methodology needs to be developed on a large spatial scale to evaluate in which regions certain groups of indices are useful.” It would be nice if this sentence would be expanded so its meaning is made clearer. Also what else is needed to allow such evaluations on a large spatial scale? Could the “careful selection process” mentioned in the abstract be expanded on here?
L1002ff: Data on “given metrics” are often scarcely available, if the “given metric” is related to a socio-economic impact. This should be mentioned.
L1002ff: what about other possible solutions? E.g. the inclusion of user preference or expert knowledge in the development of indices using co-design (e.g. Gebhardt et al. 2019 cited in Merz et al. 2020)
L1016-1039: It would increase the usefulness of the manuscript if outlook and open research questions could be unified over the five environments. Would it be possible to combine these two paragraphs or to the split according to common questions? Surely, not only the forest setting is lacking damage data etc.
L1021-1030 and L1034-1038: In my understanding, better knowledge of the spatial variability of the environments (e.g. forests or urban) is important for two reasons: (1) it has an effect on the small-scale interactions of the wind field with the surface (2) it informs difference in vulnerability and spatial distribution (e.g. of the value) of the impacted entity (e.g. trees and buildings). These two reasons could be more clearly distinguished in this paragraph but also in the section 4.
References:
Gebhardt, O., Kuhlicke, C., Wolf, L., Vitolo, C., Duo, E., van Lanen, H., Rohrer, M., Sutanto, S., & Stoffel, M. (2019). Results of the co-evaluation of the ANYWHERE tools, products and services at the pilot sites (Deliverable 1.4). Leipzig, Germany: UFZ. Retrieved from http://www.anywhere-h2020.eu/wp-content/uploads/docs/D1.4_submitted.pdf (last access 24.02.2020)
Kaltenberger, R., Schaffhauser, A. & Staudinger, M. (2020) “What the weather will do” – results of a survey on impact-oriented and impact-based warnings in European NMHSs. Advances in Science and Research, 17, 29–38. https://doi.org/10.5194/asr-17-29-2020
Merz, B., Kuhlicke, C., Kunz, M., Pittore, M., Babeyko, A., Bresch, D. N., et al. (2020). Impact forecasting to support emergency management of natural hazards. Reviews of Geophysics, 58, e2020RG000704. https://doi.org/10.1029/2020RG000704
Neal, R.A., Boyle, P., Grahame, N., Mylne, K. & Sharpe, M. (2014) Ensemble based first guess support towards a risk-based severe weather warning service: ensemble severe weather forecasts. Meteorological Applications, 21, 563–577. https://doi.org/10.1002/met.1377
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Christian Franzke, 17 Feb 2023
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