Articles | Volume 25, issue 3
https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-25-1187-2025
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Recent large-inland-lake outbursts on the Tibetan Plateau: processes, causes, and mechanisms
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RC1: 'Comment on nhess-2024-127', Adam Emmer, 10 Sep 2024
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (further review by editor and referees) (31 Oct 2024) by Olivier Dewitte
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ED: Publish as is (25 Jan 2025) by Olivier Dewitte
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This study reports three examples of lake outbursts on the Tibetan Plateau. Reported outbursts involved huge amounts of water, threatened infrastructure and are worth reporting considering the implications for future outburst hazards in the region. The text is in general well-written and the manuscript is accompanied by rich figures of high quality and information content. However, it is bit confusing for the readers that the authors describe two outbursts (from Lake Zonag in 2011 and from Lake Selin Co in 2023) in some parts of the study, while the study also contains the information about another one from Lake Donggei Cuona in 2024. To make the study clearer, I suggest the authors to introduce separate study area section (including brief description of three GLOF sites described further in the text) and to describe the studied GLOFs in separate sub-sections of the Results. I also recommend to revise discussion section, put reported outbursts in the context of other outburst in the region and present solid implications of this research for understanding outburst occurrence there. Detailed suggestions / comments / questions are provided below:
L25: the 2011 GLOF has not accompained the 2023 peak – please reword
L29: Gt is not the unit of volume
L38: vertical motion of what?
L44: I suggest not to describe plateau lakes as alpine lakes (plateau environment and alpine environment differ in my understanding)
Fig. 1: you might mention that 1970 – 2018 data come from Zhang et al., 2019
L78: please provide a reference
L80: you actually describe three throughout the text
L82: field surveying is mentioned here but not described in methods and data section – please provide more details or delete it from here
L116: this is first time you mention this lake and outburst (see my general comment)
L152: please provide more details how did you set this value? Based on field measurements?
L158-160: what is the justification of this assumption?
L163: I suggest to distinguish outburst drivers (e.g., climate change) and mechanisms (dam breaching)
L181: please consider moving this section before 2.4
L230: representativeness for what?
Fig. 3: since the study highlights the impact of precipitation increase on lake evolution, I suggest to plot lake areas shown in parts a and c against precipitation data from Fig. 7. For part b, please consider adding arrows and description directly in photos, so it is easier to understand what they illustrate
L258: “water had reached he road” rather than “had accumulated near”?
L259: what signs of heavy precipitation?
L265; the precision of discharge to two decimal places is inappropriate considering uncertainties and assumptions of model inputs (including input hydrograph)
Fig. 4: “The outburst” instead of “outbursting process”?; i and j – km instead of m on x axis?
L286: how reliable is this number considering DEM resolution, accuracy and uncertainties of modelling?
L288-293: the distance between the two lakes (according to Fig. 4) is about 12 km. This gives average flood velocity < 1 km per hour. This is very slow, definitely not rapid as described here.
L292: agree about what?
L299: is this the case in the TP?
L300: how did you get this discharge? It is written in the >Methods that only the outburst of Selin Co was modelled. The 2,191 m3/s average discharge over 28 days gives outburst volume exceeding 5 km^3 (!!). Íf so, this is among the largest (maybe even the largest) outburst floods in the Anthropocene and it should be highlighted
Fig. 7: please add a trendline for part a and consider plotting this against lake area (see my suggestion above)
L312: I was also wondering whether is there possibly any substantial contribution from melting glaciers? Please discuss this
L330: this extreme precipitation prior the outbursts is not shown
Figs. 8-11: these figures are difficult link to outbursts of the two lakes. Maybe one synthesizing figure can be presented in the main manuscript and the rest goes to the supplement?
L411: how does it accelerated permafrost degradation?
L429: the recommendations mentioned in this section are general; to make stronger point, reported events should be put in the context of other GLOFs documented from the TP (in terms of outburst timing, drivers, etc.)
To sum up, I’m convinced this study fits well in the journal and would be of interest for the readers. I recommend revisions of the structure, introduction of a separate study area section and revision of the discussion section (moderate to major revisions).