Articles | Volume 22, issue 7
https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-22-2433-2022
© Author(s) 2022. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Full-scale experiments to examine the role of deadwood in rockfall dynamics in forests
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- Final revised paper (published on 25 Jul 2022)
- Preprint (discussion started on 12 Nov 2021)
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RC1: 'Comment on nhess-2021-319', Franck Bourrier, 10 Jan 2022
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Adrian Ringenbach, 21 Feb 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on nhess-2021-319', Anonymous Referee #2, 26 Feb 2022
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Adrian Ringenbach, 07 Mar 2022
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ED: Reconsider after major revisions (further review by editor and referees) (02 Apr 2022) by Paolo Tarolli
AR by Adrian Ringenbach on behalf of the Authors (11 Apr 2022)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (01 May 2022) by Paolo Tarolli
RR by Anonymous Referee #1 (09 Jun 2022)
RR by Anonymous Referee #2 (19 Jun 2022)
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (27 Jun 2022) by Paolo Tarolli
AR by Adrian Ringenbach on behalf of the Authors (01 Jul 2022)
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This paper presents very interesting experimental results of block propagation in forested slopes aiming at assessing the protective role of deadwood. The paper is globally well written although one can note typos or mistakes (a thourough check of typos and mistakes is necessary, in my opinion). In addition, the methodology is sound and well described. The results obtained are very interesting and globally well discussed. For all that reasons, I recommend publication provided that the following comment is mandatorily taken into account.
The masses of the block used are very small. The conclusions raised are highly depending on that (in particular, the fact that the blocks are too small induces that there is no breakage of the trees). This point is briefly discussed but it should be more clearly stated, discussed both in the abstract and conclusion. In addition, the fact that the applicability of the results is limited to small rock masses should be clearly written both in the abstract and the conclusion. Indeed, if it is not done, practitioners may build inadequate recommendations from these results. This comment also applies for the simulations. It should be more clearly emphasized that the way of modelling deadwood is only adapted in the case where the block do not break the trees.
I have additionnal comments that may be taken into account :
1) p.2 l. 44, 45 : I don’t understand the sentence.
2) p.3 l. 63 : the reference is strange
3) p.3 l.71-73 : how were the SDE, SDEla and SDEsa calculated ?
4) p.3 l.71-73 : given that the distribution of the deposit is not gaussian, can you justify the use of the SDE indicators instead of “limits of a given percentile of the distribution of the deposited blocks in 2D (X,Y)” ?
5) p.3 l.81-82 : I don’t understand the sentence.
6) Table 1 : It can be interesting to discuss more the discrepancies between the experiments and simulations in terms of velocities for ORG and CLR and rotational velocities
7) p.6 l.123 : “ the surpass the DW” : missing word ?
8) p.7 l.125 -126 : Could you present more details about these results (quantitative comparisons between simulations for different values of the parameters, for example) ?
9) p.8 l. 146 – 149 : in my opinion, the differences with the results from Bourrier et al . (2012) are mainly due to the sizes of the blocks used in the simulations. In Bourrier et al., the blocks were large enough to break the trees which completely changes the processes as well as the efficacy of the protective measure.
10) p.8 l. 151 : “Olmedo (2015)” - it can be useful to cite also “Olmedo, I., Bourrier, F., Bertrand, D., Berger, F., Limam, A. Dynamic analysis of wooden rockfall protection structures subjected to impact loading using a discrete element model (2020) European Journal of Environmental and Civil Engineering, 24 (9), pp. 1430-1449.”
11) p.9 l. 168 : “underline” instead of “underlines” ?
12) p.9 l. 169 : “The here” - missing word ?
13) p.9 l. 168-184 : this section is not clear : it can be improved,
14) p.9 l. 182 : “m. s-2” instead of “m.s-1”
15) p.10 l. 202-204 : I don’t understand
16) p.10 l. 215 : “trees Bourrier et al. (2012)” : typo ?