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| 01 Aug 2023
Analysis of landslide and mudflow scenarios in loess and clay soils that caused tragic incidents in Uzbekistan
Abstract. The article describes real landslides occurred in Uzbekistan, divided into two groups. The first group is about landslides that caused accidents, where the separation zone, the form of movement, blockages and the nature of the destruction of residential buildings are considered. These are landslides of a one-time separation, rectilinearly directed and covering residential buildings; liquefaction landslides that demolish or overwhelm buildings located in the lower part of the slope; mud streams moving along the channel of the brook, transferring to the opposite side and flooding the buildings located in the floodplain of the brook. The second group is about landslides that block the riverbeds and form blockages of transverse and longitudinal shape. Scenarios for the formation and erosion of blockages, the height of blockages in loess and clayey rocks, the parameters of dammed lakes, and the places of debris erosion are considered.
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RC1: 'Comment on nhess-2023-110', Anonymous Referee #1, 29 Aug 2023
Dear colleagues,
as such the manuscript cannot be accepted for publication, as
1) first, a general English review is necessary;
2) second, maps locating the landslide events should be included;
3) a more general introduction would be needed to link those events to types of scenarios described in literature
(and for sure, a much vaster and more general referencing is needed - as such, the manuscript looks like a local report).
4) right now, the manuscript is far too descriptive, more analysis of involved processes, applied methods is needed.
5) finally, a basic paper structure should be followed: introduction, Methods, Data-Results, Discussion-Conclusions.
So, my main recommendation is to get some external colleague involved (eg project partners of this Special Issue),
to improve the paper (50% has to be rewritten!).
Sincerely yours
Reviewer H
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-RC1 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
Dear reviewer,
Thank you for the comments.
1) first, we are prepared general English review;
2) second, maps locating the landslide events is included;
3) more general introduction prepared to link our events to types of scenarios described in international literature
( more general referencing is also prepared).
4) we are re-righting the manuscript including analysis of involved processes and applied methods.
5) finally, a basic paper structure is changed as following: Introduction, Methods, Data-Results, Discussion-Conclusions.
According to your recommendation we added to the authors our colleague from Institute of geology and geophysics (Dr. Nurtaev B.S.) , which working with Dr. Niyazov since many years in the field of landslides and mudflows triggered by earthquakes, and he is working to improve the paper (now 50% are rewritten).
Sincerely yours, Fazliddin Anorboev
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on nhess-2023-110', Anonymous Referee #2, 09 Oct 2023
Summary: Niyazov Rustam et al. entitled “Analysis of landslide and mudflow scenarios in loess and 1 clay soils that caused tragic incidents in Uzbekistan”, presents detailed information on various devastating landslides that occurred in Uzbekistan which have been divided into two groups. The landslides analysed are from 1960 to 2005. Detailed analysis of different landslides has been done and identified scenarios based on several factors like detachment zone (shape and boundaries), morphometric features and the geometry of the surface and subsurface of the failure. It also analysed the mechanism of landslide development, including compression, extension, or shear within the landslide mass. Three types of landslide scenarios have been acknowledged: Simultaneous and sudden displacement, single displacement, and mudflows. The research for different landslides is thorough and has covered all the aspects of displacement, landslide damming, loss and damage caused by the landslides in a quantitative manner. The study needs some major changes and structuring to be readable. Below are the few suggestions mentioned.
Please mention the source in all the graphs and figures.
Mention the numbers in the ‘2500,000 m3’ way or ‘2.5 million’ way.
Page 1
The abstract is a little difficult to understand. The overall description of the work is not mentioned. Only the details of the two types of groups are mentioned.
Line 44: No need to change the paragraph.
Line 48: No need to change the paragraph.
Page 2
In the section “Identification of landslide scenarios”, no proper indents are given to the subsection
Line 26: Unbold the phrase “The analysis of the rupture zone”
Line 38: Remove the comma after ‘mound’
Line 42: Unbold the phrase “The transit and accumulation zones”
Line 43: ‘and so on’ sounds undecisive
Page 3
Line 15: no need to change the paragraph.
Line 27: Unbold the phrase “The Cheborgata landslide”
Line 46: Unbold the phrase “The Gurdara landslide”
Page 4
Line 18-34: Repetition of the line ‘The landslide slope……………. of the rock masses’.
Line 35: Justify the section ‘Debris Avalanche’
Line 43: Unbold the phrase “The Djigiristan landslide”
Page 5
Line 8: Justify the section ‘Detachment zone’
Line 20: Justify the section ‘Deposition area’
Line 33: Unbold the phrase “Tokberdy-1 landslide”
Page 6
Line 4: ‘ranging from 35 to 400’. Repeated phrase
Line 6: Justify the section ‘Deposition area’
Line 12: Start from the new paragraph from “Tokberdy-1 landslide”
Line 24: Repeated values ‘160-170 m’
Line 25: Repeated values ‘80 to 110 m’
Line 26: Repeated values ’35 to 400’
Line 28: Justify the section ‘Deposition area’
Line 28-34: Repeated information
Line 39: Unbold the phrase “The Khodjikent landslide”
Line 41: Justify the section ‘Zone of Detachment’
Line 44: Repeated value ‘250,000 m3’
Page 7
Line 13: Justify the section ‘Spread zone’
Line 22: Unbold the phrase “The Aktash landslide”
Line 24: no need to change the paragraph.
Line 32: Justify the section ‘Zone of Detachment’
Line 36: Justify the section ‘Deposition’
Line 41-42: It should be in the ‘Type I-1’ section
Line 43-47: It should be in the 'Type I-2' section
Line 50: Change ‘economic’ to ‘economical’
Page 8
Line 9: Repeated value ‘0.6 million m3’
Line 39: No mention of year after ‘April 16’
Page 9
Line 33: Change ‘II-group’ to ‘Type-II’
Line 33-34: Unbold the phrase ‘The formation and erosion of transverse and longitudinal landslide deposits’ or bold the phrase in the ‘Type-I’ section
Line 37: Change the phrase ‘and so on’
Line 46: Change ‘Type II-1’ to ‘Type II-1’
Line 46: Unbold the phrase ‘The formation of transverse forms of landslide deposits and their erosion.’
Page 10
Line 5: Unbold the phrase “The Karankul mudflow”
Line 24: Unbold the phrase ““Crystal” landslides”
Page 11
Line 3: Unbold the phrase “The Langar landslide”
Page 12
Line 1: Unbold the phrase “The "Kattakishlok" landslide”
Line 24-25: Unbold the phrase ‘On April 17, 2002, a mudflow occurred along the Sharqilamasay in the Bostanlyk zone’
Line 29: no need to change the paragraph
Line 43: Repeated value ‘8-10 m’
Page 13
Line 16: Change ‘Type II-2’ to ‘Type II-2’
Line 16: Unbold the phrase ‘Formation and erosion of the longitudinal shape of landslide debris’
Line 30: Unbold the phrase ‘The Sulisay landslide’
Page 14
Line 3: Unbold the phrase ‘The Baybaksay landslide’
Page 15
Line 11-12: Unbold the phrase ‘On April 29, 1992, at 23:40, a rock avalanche known as the Ikari-Guldara landslide occurred’
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-RC2 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
Dear reviewer,
Thank you for the comments.
We mentioning the source in all the graphs and figures.
Changing the numbers in the ‘2500,000 m3’ way or ‘2.5 million’ way. So we accepting all and already changed in the text.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
Status: closed (peer review stopped)
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RC1: 'Comment on nhess-2023-110', Anonymous Referee #1, 29 Aug 2023
Dear colleagues,
as such the manuscript cannot be accepted for publication, as
1) first, a general English review is necessary;
2) second, maps locating the landslide events should be included;
3) a more general introduction would be needed to link those events to types of scenarios described in literature
(and for sure, a much vaster and more general referencing is needed - as such, the manuscript looks like a local report).
4) right now, the manuscript is far too descriptive, more analysis of involved processes, applied methods is needed.
5) finally, a basic paper structure should be followed: introduction, Methods, Data-Results, Discussion-Conclusions.
So, my main recommendation is to get some external colleague involved (eg project partners of this Special Issue),
to improve the paper (50% has to be rewritten!).
Sincerely yours
Reviewer H
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-RC1 -
AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
Dear reviewer,
Thank you for the comments.
1) first, we are prepared general English review;
2) second, maps locating the landslide events is included;
3) more general introduction prepared to link our events to types of scenarios described in international literature
( more general referencing is also prepared).
4) we are re-righting the manuscript including analysis of involved processes and applied methods.
5) finally, a basic paper structure is changed as following: Introduction, Methods, Data-Results, Discussion-Conclusions.
According to your recommendation we added to the authors our colleague from Institute of geology and geophysics (Dr. Nurtaev B.S.) , which working with Dr. Niyazov since many years in the field of landslides and mudflows triggered by earthquakes, and he is working to improve the paper (now 50% are rewritten).
Sincerely yours, Fazliddin Anorboev
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
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RC2: 'Comment on nhess-2023-110', Anonymous Referee #2, 09 Oct 2023
Summary: Niyazov Rustam et al. entitled “Analysis of landslide and mudflow scenarios in loess and 1 clay soils that caused tragic incidents in Uzbekistan”, presents detailed information on various devastating landslides that occurred in Uzbekistan which have been divided into two groups. The landslides analysed are from 1960 to 2005. Detailed analysis of different landslides has been done and identified scenarios based on several factors like detachment zone (shape and boundaries), morphometric features and the geometry of the surface and subsurface of the failure. It also analysed the mechanism of landslide development, including compression, extension, or shear within the landslide mass. Three types of landslide scenarios have been acknowledged: Simultaneous and sudden displacement, single displacement, and mudflows. The research for different landslides is thorough and has covered all the aspects of displacement, landslide damming, loss and damage caused by the landslides in a quantitative manner. The study needs some major changes and structuring to be readable. Below are the few suggestions mentioned.
Please mention the source in all the graphs and figures.
Mention the numbers in the ‘2500,000 m3’ way or ‘2.5 million’ way.
Page 1
The abstract is a little difficult to understand. The overall description of the work is not mentioned. Only the details of the two types of groups are mentioned.
Line 44: No need to change the paragraph.
Line 48: No need to change the paragraph.
Page 2
In the section “Identification of landslide scenarios”, no proper indents are given to the subsection
Line 26: Unbold the phrase “The analysis of the rupture zone”
Line 38: Remove the comma after ‘mound’
Line 42: Unbold the phrase “The transit and accumulation zones”
Line 43: ‘and so on’ sounds undecisive
Page 3
Line 15: no need to change the paragraph.
Line 27: Unbold the phrase “The Cheborgata landslide”
Line 46: Unbold the phrase “The Gurdara landslide”
Page 4
Line 18-34: Repetition of the line ‘The landslide slope……………. of the rock masses’.
Line 35: Justify the section ‘Debris Avalanche’
Line 43: Unbold the phrase “The Djigiristan landslide”
Page 5
Line 8: Justify the section ‘Detachment zone’
Line 20: Justify the section ‘Deposition area’
Line 33: Unbold the phrase “Tokberdy-1 landslide”
Page 6
Line 4: ‘ranging from 35 to 400’. Repeated phrase
Line 6: Justify the section ‘Deposition area’
Line 12: Start from the new paragraph from “Tokberdy-1 landslide”
Line 24: Repeated values ‘160-170 m’
Line 25: Repeated values ‘80 to 110 m’
Line 26: Repeated values ’35 to 400’
Line 28: Justify the section ‘Deposition area’
Line 28-34: Repeated information
Line 39: Unbold the phrase “The Khodjikent landslide”
Line 41: Justify the section ‘Zone of Detachment’
Line 44: Repeated value ‘250,000 m3’
Page 7
Line 13: Justify the section ‘Spread zone’
Line 22: Unbold the phrase “The Aktash landslide”
Line 24: no need to change the paragraph.
Line 32: Justify the section ‘Zone of Detachment’
Line 36: Justify the section ‘Deposition’
Line 41-42: It should be in the ‘Type I-1’ section
Line 43-47: It should be in the 'Type I-2' section
Line 50: Change ‘economic’ to ‘economical’
Page 8
Line 9: Repeated value ‘0.6 million m3’
Line 39: No mention of year after ‘April 16’
Page 9
Line 33: Change ‘II-group’ to ‘Type-II’
Line 33-34: Unbold the phrase ‘The formation and erosion of transverse and longitudinal landslide deposits’ or bold the phrase in the ‘Type-I’ section
Line 37: Change the phrase ‘and so on’
Line 46: Change ‘Type II-1’ to ‘Type II-1’
Line 46: Unbold the phrase ‘The formation of transverse forms of landslide deposits and their erosion.’
Page 10
Line 5: Unbold the phrase “The Karankul mudflow”
Line 24: Unbold the phrase ““Crystal” landslides”
Page 11
Line 3: Unbold the phrase “The Langar landslide”
Page 12
Line 1: Unbold the phrase “The "Kattakishlok" landslide”
Line 24-25: Unbold the phrase ‘On April 17, 2002, a mudflow occurred along the Sharqilamasay in the Bostanlyk zone’
Line 29: no need to change the paragraph
Line 43: Repeated value ‘8-10 m’
Page 13
Line 16: Change ‘Type II-2’ to ‘Type II-2’
Line 16: Unbold the phrase ‘Formation and erosion of the longitudinal shape of landslide debris’
Line 30: Unbold the phrase ‘The Sulisay landslide’
Page 14
Line 3: Unbold the phrase ‘The Baybaksay landslide’
Page 15
Line 11-12: Unbold the phrase ‘On April 29, 1992, at 23:40, a rock avalanche known as the Ikari-Guldara landslide occurred’
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-RC2 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
Dear reviewer,
Thank you for the comments.
We mentioning the source in all the graphs and figures.
Changing the numbers in the ‘2500,000 m3’ way or ‘2.5 million’ way. So we accepting all and already changed in the text.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/nhess-2023-110-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Fazliddin Anorboyev, 16 Nov 2023
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